[M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG- 4 Licensing ...

[Jeyendran Balakrishnan]

	The people most happy with the current sorry state of MPEG-4
licensing 
will be those who already have widely used proprietary codecs (we all know
who 
they are!). They must be praying that MPEG-LA never gets its act together 
to come up with terms which potential licensees fell are fair and
reasonable.
	By all current evidence, their prayers appear likely to be answered.
	As for me, I'm looking at MPEG-4 Part 10 and hoping that it is 
patent-free ;-)
Regards to all:
Jeyendran
-----Original Message-----
From: Eamon O'Tuathail [mailto:eamon.otuathail   clipcode.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 2:58 AM
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Subject: [M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG-4
Licensing ...
I totally agree with this.
Someone should remind the licensors behind MPEGLA that it is not a race
to see who is slowest to market with modern streaming video products,
but who is the fastest. 
Is it too much to ask that they get their act together and that
licensing be fully sorted out by the end of this month? 
While MPEG4 is waiting for this mess to be sorted (and it is a mess),
other competing solutions are racing ahead - the licensors should be
reminded that although MPEG4 is a standard, that certainly does not mean
it will automatically be accepted when (if?) it arrives. If other
solutions are better, cheaper (no ridiculous royalties) and already
widely distributed, then a very very very late MEPG 4 will be ignored
(and that means zero royalties for the licensors). 
I would also suggest that future MPEG standards be designed so that they
are not dependent on royalty-bearing patents. I know this is particular
difficult in the audiovisual field, but with the alternative - the
current situation - we have nothing shipping. 
Eamon O'Tuathail
Clipcode.com
-----Original Message-----
From: news-admin   lists.m4if.org [mailto:news-admin   lists.m4if.org] On
Behalf Of Chiariglione Leonardo
Sent: 02 May 2024 22:15
To: Rob Koenen; M4IF news (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG-4 Licensing ...
>As everyone on this list knows, many concerns have been voiced over
licensing of, notably, MPEG-4 Video.
I am not voicing concern over the specific terms of the announced, but
unconfirmed, MPEG-4 Video licensing. I am just reiterating what I said
one year ago in San Jose at the M4IF meeting: if there is no way to get
an MPEG-4 license, this is not fair and not reasonable (I do not know if
it is discriminatory). Therefore such an ISO standard cannot be retained
if normal people cannot get a license to use it.
If the only answer for people wishing to use the standard, 3.5 years
after it was approved, is that "the process is advancing" (thak you for
informing us of this, we thought it was moving backwards) and that there
are "hopes to have a further > > announcement in the near future" (thank
you very much for your kind commitment), either we are dealing with too
smart or too dull people. I, as the average subscriber to this list, am
neither, but I know that, with such an attitude, there is no prospect to
use the standard before the next ice age.
One suggestion could be that the people working on MPEG-4 licensing
reduce their engagements on the golf courses and turn a benevolent eye
to such worldly matters as giving a chance to people who have believed
in and supported a fair process, to be able to use its results. But,
maybe, this is asking too much.
Leonardo
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