From rob.koenen m4if.org Tue Jan 28 10:23:19 2003 From: rob.koenen m4if.org (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:51:42 2003 Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG LA Extends Call For Initial Submission Of Essential H.264/MPEG4 AVC Patents to April 4th Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59016BEE40@exchange.epr.com> People, The following was released last week, while I was on the road. The extension of the submission deadline is no surprise, since the editing work of the now finalized spec will only be completed in March, and you can't really judge essentiality until the spec is released in its final form. The release is also linked from our home page, www.m4if.org - look under Hot News and under Press Releases Best Regards, Rob -------------------------------------------- NEWS RELEASE For Immediate Release CONTACT: Lawrence Horn MPEG LA, LLC 301.986.6660 301.986.8575 Fax lhorn@mpegla.com MPEG LA Extends Call for Initial Submission of Essential H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Patents Initial Submissions Now Requested By April 4, 2024 (Denver, Colorado, US - 24 January 2024) - MPEG LA, LLC today announced that it has extended until April 4, 2003, the initial period during which patent holders who believe they own patents that are essential to the proposed JVT/AVC Standard may submit them for an evaluation of essentiality by independent patent experts for the purpose of forming a joint AVC Patent Portfolio License. Submissions have already been received from many parties. The initial patent submission period has been extended in light of the fact that the AVC Final Draft International Standard (FDIS) is not expected to be issued until March 10-14, 2003 (the dates of the next JVT meeting). This extension will make it possible for additional submitting parties to prepare their patent submissions based on the FDIS. In an effort to move the licensing process forward as expeditiously as possible, MPEG LA first announced an initial call for patent submissions in a news release dated 11 September 2023 [see www.mpegla.com/news/n_02-09-11_jvt.html], but subsequently announced a first extension in a news release dated 29 October 2023 [see www.mpegla.com/news/n_02-10-29_jvt.html]. Patents will be examined for their essentiality to the FDIS, and more information will be provided on that at the appropriate time. For each patent submitted, an evaluation fee of US $8,500.00 will be paid to MPEG LA, LLC. Submitting parties must confirm their agreement with the terms and procedures governing the patent submission process which may be obtained from Jane Tannenbaum, Director, Contract Administration (jtannenbaum@mpegla.com). # # # MPEG LA, LLC MPEG LA successfully pioneered one-stop technology standards licensing with a portfolio of essential patents for the international digital video compression standard known as MPEG-2, which it began licensing in 1997. One-stop technology standards licensing enables widespread technological implementation, interoperability and use of fundamental broad-based technologies covered by many patents owned by many patent holders. MPEG LA provides users with fair, reasonable, nondiscriminatory access to these essential patents on a worldwide basis under a single license. In addition to MPEG-2, MPEG LA licenses portfolios of essential patents for the IEEE 1394 Standard, the DVB-T Standard and the MPEG-4 Visual Standard and will license a portfolio of essential patents for the MPEG-4 Systems Standard. For more information, please refer to www.mpegla.com , www.1394la.com and www.dvbla.com . MPEG LA is based in Denver, Colorado, USA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/discuss/attachments/20030128/9cff691a/attachment.html From vikas.lekhi patni.com Wed Jan 29 15:36:02 2003 From: vikas.lekhi patni.com (Vikas Lekhi) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:51:42 2003 Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG-4 License related issues Message-ID: Hi Iam Vikas working for a IT services ( Software )firm. I have gone thru the license agreement documents but am still unclear about IPR related issues wrto MPEG-4 Video Standards as applicable to Software firms. Suppose we want to develop MPEG-4 Video Encoder software supporting Simple Profile @ Level 3 and Core Profile @ Level-2 features and tools. The encoder will be ISO/IEC 14496-2 standard compliant and uses H.263, MPEG algorithms and few others. Our Encoder will not use Audio and system standards The market we look fwd is to sell to the OEM's. In context of above information can you help me wrto following queries: 1) If we (Patni) develop an mpeg-4 encoder based on the MPEG-4 Video ISO standard, who owns the IP for the implementation? 2) Can we sell the source code to another vendor? If yes, in order to make such a sale, do we need to obtain an IP, registeration for our source code etc first. 3) Related to 1 - If we want to deploy the solution within a product then do we need to pay any licensing fee to the original IP holder (assuming we are not the IP holders) - who is it in this case, is it the MPEG committee? 4)Similarly related to 2 - if we sell it, does the vendor need to pay any licensing fee if he wants to deploy it somewhere. For example if we want to sell the MPEG-4 Encoder to an OEM (in the form of source code, design documentation etc),in order to make such a sale, do we need to obtain an IP,registeration for our source code etc first or does the responsibility lie with the OEM) I will be grateful for any help provided in this regard Regards Vikas Lekhi From chatur ftdpl.com Wed Jan 29 19:47:22 2003 From: chatur ftdpl.com (chatur) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:51:42 2003 Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG-4 License related issues References: Message-ID: <000a01c2c7a1$29587400$8204a8c0@chatur> Hi, As per my understanding, if you have used ISO standard as a reference for designing mpeg-4 encoder and not copied part of any source code ( reference source code supplied as part of ISO), you are the owner of the code and you can license to any one. I don't think there is any restriction from ISO. This could be your own IP. I will invite comments from others if any. Regards Chatur Gadhia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vikas Lekhi" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2024 3:36 PM Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG-4 License related issues > Hi > > Iam Vikas working for a IT services ( Software )firm. I have gone thru the > license agreement documents but am still unclear about IPR related issues > wrto MPEG-4 Video Standards as applicable to Software firms. > > > Suppose we want to develop MPEG-4 Video Encoder software supporting Simple > Profile @ Level 3 and Core Profile @ Level-2 features and tools. The encoder > will be ISO/IEC 14496-2 standard compliant and uses H.263, MPEG algorithms > and few others. > > Our Encoder will not use Audio and system standards > > The market we look fwd is to sell to the OEM's. > > In context of above information can you help me wrto following queries: > > 1) If we (Patni) develop an mpeg-4 encoder based on the MPEG-4 Video > ISO standard, who owns the IP for the implementation? > > 2) Can we sell the source code to another vendor? > If yes, in order to make such a sale, do we need to obtain an IP, > registeration for our source code etc first. > > 3) Related to 1 - If we want to deploy the solution within a product > then do we need to pay any licensing fee to the original IP holder > (assuming we are not the IP holders) - who is it in this case, is it the > MPEG committee? > > 4)Similarly related to 2 - if we sell it, does the vendor need to pay > any licensing fee if he wants to deploy it somewhere. > > For example if we want to sell the MPEG-4 Encoder to an OEM > (in the form of source code, design documentation etc),in order to make such > a sale, do we need to obtain an IP,registeration for our source code etc > first or does the responsibility lie with the OEM) > > > I will be grateful for any help provided in this regard > > Regards > Vikas Lekhi > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.m4if.org > http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > From LHorn mpegla.com Wed Jan 29 16:25:27 2003 From: LHorn mpegla.com (Larry Horn) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:51:42 2003 Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG-4 License related issues Message-ID: <8DDF6652F243A7419BC9BA168417EDDC3BF018@oxford.mpegla.com> Hello, Vikas. I will be glad to answer your questions. Where a license is necessary under patents that are essential to a standard such as the MPEG-4 Visual Standard, MPEG LA's role is to provide access for the convenience of the marketplace under one license to as many essential patents as possible in order to foster interoperability and the widest possible use of the standard. MPEG LA itself has neither a patent nor a product position; we take the output of the standard as it is developed by the standards-setting body (in this case, MPEG) and put together a licensing product that enables users to have access to as much of the standard's essential intellectual property as possible in one transaction rather than multiple transactions (such as would be required in order to negotiate directly with each individual patent holder). The License currently includes essential patents owned by 20 patent owners (see http://www.mpegla.com, then go to MPEG-4 Visual). In order to be included in the License, each patent owner must own one or more patents that MPEG LA's independent patent experts have found to be essential to the use of the standard. Thus, products using the standard require a license under these patents. Royalties are paid to MPEG LA, which in turn distributes them to patent owners. Under the MPEG-4 Visual Patent Portfolio License offered by MPEG LA, the manufacturer and/or seller of decoders and encoders in fully functioning form (in the case of MPEG-4 Visual Internet) and in the product configuration in which they are used by a Consumer (in the case of MPEG-4 Visual Unique Use, MPEG-4 Visual Consumer Recorded Video and MPEG-4 Visual Mobile Video) would pay royalties for the right to make and sell the decoders and encoders. The one-time royalties for that right are US $0.25 per decoder after the first 50,000 units in a year [for one legal entity but no more than one legal entity in an affiliated group of companies] subject to a total annual cap of $1,000,000 per legal entity and US $0.25 per encoder after the first 50,000 encoders in a year [for one legal entity but no more than one legal entity in an affiliated group of companies] subject to a total annual cap of $1,000,000 per legal entity. (To the extent MPEG-4 video is offered for remuneration, then the Video Provider that offers the MPEG-4 video for remuneration also pays a royalty for the right to use the decoders and encoders.) This should provide you with the basic information you need, but if you want to provide me with more information regarding your products (not using the reflector), I will be able to provide you with additional guidance. I also will be glad to provide you with a copy of the MPEG-4 Visual Patent Portfolio License if you provide me with your reach information. Best regards, Larry Horn Vice President, Licensing -----Original Message----- From: Vikas Lekhi [mailto:vikas.lekhi@patni.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2024 5:06 AM To: discuss@lists.m4if.org Subject: [M4IF Discuss] MPEG-4 License related issues Hi Iam Vikas working for a IT services ( Software )firm. I have gone thru the license agreement documents but am still unclear about IPR related issues wrto MPEG-4 Video Standards as applicable to Software firms. Suppose we want to develop MPEG-4 Video Encoder software supporting Simple Profile @ Level 3 and Core Profile @ Level-2 features and tools. The encoder will be ISO/IEC 14496-2 standard compliant and uses H.263, MPEG algorithms and few others. Our Encoder will not use Audio and system standards The market we look fwd is to sell to the OEM's. In context of above information can you help me wrto following queries: 1) If we (Patni) develop an mpeg-4 encoder based on the MPEG-4 Video ISO standard, who owns the IP for the implementation? 2) Can we sell the source code to another vendor? If yes, in order to make such a sale, do we need to obtain an IP, registeration for our source code etc first. 3) Related to 1 - If we want to deploy the solution within a product then do we need to pay any licensing fee to the original IP holder (assuming we are not the IP holders) - who is it in this case, is it the MPEG committee? 4)Similarly related to 2 - if we sell it, does the vendor need to pay any licensing fee if he wants to deploy it somewhere. For example if we want to sell the MPEG-4 Encoder to an OEM (in the form of source code, design documentation etc),in order to make such a sale, do we need to obtain an IP,registeration for our source code etc first or does the responsibility lie with the OEM) I will be grateful for any help provided in this regard Regards Vikas Lekhi _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.m4if.org http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss From ben interframemedia.com Wed Jan 29 18:28:13 2003 From: ben interframemedia.com (Ben Waggoner) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:51:42 2003 Subject: [M4IF Discuss] Portland area compressionists gathering Message-ID: Folks, We're having our second irregular Portland-area video compression gathering next week! Portland-area compressionists gathering 7pm Thursday, February 6th Alameda Brewhouse: http://portland.citysearch.com/profile/8468242/ All are welcome. Drop me a line privately if you're thinking about coming, just so I can keep a headcount. Ben Waggoner Compressed Video Consulting, Training, and Encoding My Book: Cleaner e-book: Compression Classes at Stanford June 30-July 4 and Aug 11-15