[M4IF Technotes] RE: [M4IF News] New Patent Holder Group Pres s Releases

[Bill Bernat]

That's great Rob, thank you.
This clears up some of the bigger areas were I have been puzzled regarding
licensing.
-billb
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Koenen [mailto:rkoenen   intertrust.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2023 10:21 PM
> To: 'Bill Bernat'; 'technotes   lists.m4if.org'
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Technotes] RE: [M4IF News] New Patent 
> Holder Group Pres s Releases
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> couple of answers.
> 
> 1) M4IF is not sanctioned by MPEG, and certainly not to deal with
>    patents. Nobody is, for the simple reasons that noboday 
> can sanction
>    anyone to deal with these issues.
>    Actually, M4IF only acts as a catalyst which doesn't deal 
> with patents
>    iteself either.
> 2) M4IF and MPEG and ISMA all have good relationships (no wonder, it's
>    often the same people) and there is no disconnect here.
> 3) M4IF has already done everything necessary to have the patent work
>    started for Advanced Simple (because its members had asked 
> to do so,
>    and also following a request from ISMA). So has MPEGLA.
> 4) The only gating factor is now that the standard with 
> Advanced Simple
>    still cannot be bought from ISO. I am looking for a National Body
>    (even a single one will do) that sells the pre-final version 
>    ISO/IEC 14496-2:2001 FDAM 2. The text of this document is 
> identical to
>    that of the final amendment that will be published by ISO.
> 
> > This is very encouraging news; however, I noticed that while
> > ISMA 1.0 maps to both Simple and Advanced Simple (at level 
> > 3), this news about likely licensing activities mentions only 
> > Simple and Core.  I do realise that the M4IF and the ISMA are 
> > not at all the same organization, and I realize that it is 
> > the M4IF that is sanctioned by the MPEG and charged with 
> > coordinating licensing activities.  Also, I realize I may be 
> > asking about things that can't be revealed publicly at 
> > present and if so then no worries, I apologize and understand.
> > 
> > That said, I'm wondering if anybody can shed any light on (a)
> > whether or not Advanced Simple expected to be licensable in 
> > early 2002 and 
> 
> ASAP yes. MPEGLA is ready to issue the call, who the 
> licensing agent will be - I do not know.
> 
> > (b) if so, is that through the MPEG
> > LA/M4VisualPGH or perhaps just through MPEGLA sans 
> > M4VisualPHG or perhaps some other means altogether and 
> 
> Doesn't matter to me, as long as it is fast.
> I would be happy if it were available from multiple parties.
> 
> > how big a difference does the motion compensation
> > that is in Advanced Simple provide over Core, which does not 
> > have motion compensation AFAIK, 
> 
> Core has no MC? Of course it does.
> Anyway, Advanced Simple has quarter pel MC and Global MC; 
> Core only has 1/2 pel. The gains are significant, but I do 
> not have percentages. Perhaps someone else on the list does.
> 
> THanks for allowing me to explain where we are and to correct 
> a few possible misunderstandings,
> 
> Best,
> Rob
>