[Mp4-tech] Re: [MPEGIF Discuss] [systems] [discussion] Who framed MPEG-4 withinH264 ?

LIM, Young-Kwon young netntv.co.kr
Thu Sep 30 02:31:26 EDT 2004


Dear Igino Manfre
I just want to inform you that there is a service planning to use MPEG-4 Systems for broadcasting interactive contents. Korea is introducing new broadcasting service for mobile reception early next year which is adopting MPEG-4 BIFS for the interactive contents. It will be the world first commercial broadcasting service based on MPEG-4 Systems. 
Sincerely,
Young-Kwon LIM
VP Business Development
net&tv Inc.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "igino manfre'" <igino.manfre tiscali.it>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2023 2:26 AM
Subject: [MPEGIF Discuss] [systems] [discussion] Who framed MPEG-4 withinH264 ?
> Hi people,
> 
> It seems me that we are forgetting that MPEG-4 is NOT ONLY a visual
> compression scheme.
> Really it is all but BUT NOT ONLY a visual compression scheme.
> 
> I presume you all agree.
> 
> If we consider the subjects of this newsgroup, in the last two-three years
> the focus migrates from the visual (who was in or out MPEG-4) to the MPEG-LA
> licensing schemes (that could better defined "mpeg-4 suicide") and again
> back to the visual (h264). It can be also felt a growing interest from India
> and far east.
> 
> In this landscape, I find almost no mail related to the "system" of MPEG-4,
> and I do not think because they are better explained.
> 
> Two years ago there had been a lot of development of SDKs and authoring
> systems in the area, many of which used to work (even fine). Probably all
> these have been commercial flops since now at the exhibitions no-one is more
> pushing fully MPEG-4 based solutions. All and only H264. Does it means that
> MPEG-4 (in its complex) is dead ?
> 
> Really, for what I know, excluding the many experiments and demo targeted to
> demostrate the power of object encoding and multiplexing within MPEG-4
> systems (meanly two-three years old), I do not know any "true" (i.e.
> marketable) application of "true" MPEG-4 after the part "-2".
> 
> Today the entire world is fashioned by H264. Its astonishing 2-3 Mbps 720P
> video will probably be the first "true" MPEG-4 part really diffused on the
> Earth. All the broadcast encoder manufacturer are today able to show their
> h264 solution...
> 
> But the broadcast usage will probably be a terrible mix of H264 ES video &
> MP3 or AC3 audio over MPEG-2 transport. The goal is to "squeeze" enough the
> required bandwidth to allow the deploiment of high definition TV over cable
> modem. To make this mix dirtier, probably these broadcast will carry OCAP or
> MHP/OpenTV interactivity.
> 
> Does not it sound a little blasfeme ? What do you think about ?
> 
> The diffusion of MPEG-2 STB is not a key factor, since the current STBs must
> be replaced in any case to decompress the H264. But a STB that will be able
> to decode H264 could have enough computational power to implement the entire
> standard.
> 
> Really it is an architectural problem since if the entire decoder will be
> put in a dice of silicon any further expansion could not be possible...
> 
> An observation I expect is that as "the market trains the research", as well
> it trains the newsgroups. But maybe the locomotives (or who designs the
> railways) do not sufficiently know what COULD be available...
> 
> Are we really sure to have done the right work ?
> 
> Best regards, Igino Manfre'
> 
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