From rkoenen intertrust.com Sun Jan 6 22:48:16 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] FW: Become an MPEG-4 "Expert" in 6 Hours Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D591871C3@exchange.epr.com> A gentle reminder that our series of MPEG-4 interactive web Hands-on Talk Shows are about to start. For the coming show, we have Carsten Herpel and Yuval Fisher, two renowned experts, to talk about major parts of MPEG-4 Systems. For those that do not have HTML email, please see http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html Best Regards, Rob (ps: the logo for M4IF is an interim-one) STREAMING TECHNICAL TALK Hard-Hitting Weekly Lessons in Streaming Technology! Become an MPEG-4 "Expert" in Six Hours Streaming Media, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum* ( M4IF ) together present a special six-episode series "MPEG-4 Technology and Applications" on streamingmedia.com 's Hands-On talk show. Join M4IF president and ISO MPEG Requirements Group Chair Rob Koenen and host Bill Bernat, co-author of Streaming Media Research's MPEG-4: The Impact of the Open Standard on the Future of Digital Media, along with several of the world 's leading MPEG-4 experts for an hour each week of technical and practical intelligence in the key subject areas of MPEG-4 technology. _____ All shows will be live at 17:00 UTC/GMT (9:00 AM PST). They will also be available on-demand. _____ January 8 SYSTEMS Perhaps the least understood part of the standard,systems may be the most important and is surely the most innovative. Find out what it is and why it matters. ADVERTISEMENT Streaming Media Research and JPA Present Migration of streaming media platforms to an open standard promises to lead to tremendous opportunities, and tremendous headaches. This report separates hype from reality, arming CDNs, Vendors, CTOs, Broadcasters, and others with the facts they need to make accurate business decisions today. buy now more info January 15 VISUAL It 's about more - much more - than just interoperable rectangular streaming video,which itself has landscape-shaking potential. January 22 AUDIO With its complexity units and many advanced algorithms it 's not your father 's audio compression. January 29 CONFORMANCE & INTEROPERABILITY The brilliance of MPEG-4 will not be realized without a healthy mixture of competition and cooperation amongst vendors. (Profiles & Levels included!) February 5 XMT & AUTHORING Yes, Virginia, there is a text-based scene description language for MPEG-4 and,yes authoring can be done in tools, too. February 12 DRM (IPMP) TODAY & IN THE FUTURE If you can 't make money what 's the point?Protect your content and manage your rights. _____ Advertising and Sponsorship Information Alec Dinner 415-717-8858 _____ * The MPEG-4 Industry Forum is a not-for-profit corporation that seeks "to further the adoption and widespread use of the MPEG-4 Standard, by establishing MPEG-4 as an accepted standard among application developers service providers content creators and end users." M4IF is open to all parties that support this goal. M4IF carries on activities outside of ISO/IEC 's scope such as marketing, end-to-end interoperability testing, educating the market and potential users setting up certification programs and organizing tutorials and exhibitions. 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URL: /pipermail/news/attachments/20020106/c47612d5/attachment.html From rkoenen intertrust.com Mon Jan 7 22:51:24 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Technologies and Applications Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D5918721E@exchange.epr.com> Dear people, Today, I was made aware that there are 2 events at the start of this year, that both have "MPEG-4 Technology and Applications" in their titles: * A series of 6 webcasts that is organized in a cooperation of Streamingmedia and M4IF; (see http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html) * A seminar suite organized by KNK Seminars and Strategies; (see http://www.knk-mpeg.com/) I have been made aware that the commonality in title has caused some confusion among some parties potentially interested in attending one or both of these events. To prevent potential misunderstandings, I would like to note the following: * these are two different events, * there is no immediate relation, except for the fact that they both address MPEG-4 * the similarity in name is purely coincidental, and in as much as this causes confusion, unfortunate. I hope this clarifies the situation. With Kind Regards, Rob Koenen From rkoenen intertrust.com Tue Jan 8 01:12:35 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] First of Series of Webcasts is Today! Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187235@exchange.epr.com> All, the first of six announced webcasts on MPEG technologies "Become an MPEG-4 Expert in 6 hours" is due in a couple of hours from now. The topic of this one-hour show is MPEG-4 Systems, focussing on the Scene Description and Object Descriptor Framework of MPEG-4. The webcast is a cooperation between Streamingmedia, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum, M4IF. Please find information here http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html and here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/mpeg4.asp. Also, find listening details here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/view.asp?id=299 This promises to be an interesting hour for anyone that wants to know more on MPEG-4 Systems. Kind Regards, Rob Koenen ps: In relation to M4IF's role in this webcast I would like to note the following. Due to a change in policy by Streamingmedia, their website now requires visitors to fill out a questionnaire with personal and company information, before they get access to the actual webcast. I discovered this, more or less by chance, last morning. I appreciate that some potential listeners will hesitate providing this information. This requirement did not exist when M4IF decided to enter into the cooperation with Streamingmedia, and the change was not anticipated by M4IF or communicated to M4IF. M4IF does not have access to the information collected in this way. From knkneib knk-mpeg.com Thu Jan 10 09:54:02 2002 From: knkneib knk-mpeg.com (Kristine N. Kneib, Ph.D.) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Technologies and Applications In-Reply-To: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D5918721E@exchange.epr.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020110083635.0233eec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Good Morning MPEG-4 Colleagues, KNK Seminars and Strategies wishes to thank our colleague and President of M4IF, Rob Koenen, for his kind clarification to this M4IF news group at large of the two separate and distinct events. As a further introduction for your reference, KNK Seminars and Strategies (aka knk-mpeg.com) is proud to serve as a voting member on the MPEG committee since the first MPEG-2 days and to provide training and services in technologies and applications to all aspects of industry in product planning and development and strategic planning and marketing since 1985 in advanced systems and services based on international and open standards. Our current product offerings of public and on-site seminars are: MPEG1 & MPEG2 - Video, Audio, Systems Digital Television Systems MPEG-4 Strategies MPEG-4 Technologies and Applications Real-Time Multimedia Communications Systems Our next seminar series is in Silicon Valley January 22 through 30, 2002. Detailed agendas, fees, registration and logistics are available on our website at www.knk-mpeg.com/indexsem.html. We look forward to meeting your needs now and in the future. Thank you for your kind attention and considerations. Best regards, Kristine Kneib President KNK Seminars and Strategies Tel: (+) 1-858-459-8058 Making MPEG Work for You! At 10:51 PM 1/7/02 -0800, you wrote: >Dear people, > >Today, I was made aware that there are 2 events at the start of this year, >that both have "MPEG-4 Technology and Applications" in their titles: > >* A series of 6 webcasts that is organized in a cooperation of > Streamingmedia and M4IF; > (see http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html) >* A seminar suite organized by KNK Seminars and Strategies; > (see http://www.knk-mpeg.com/) > >I have been made aware that the commonality in title has caused >some confusion among some parties potentially interested in >attending one or both of these events. > >To prevent potential misunderstandings, I would like to note the following: >* these are two different events, >* there is no immediate relation, except for the fact that they both > address MPEG-4 >* the similarity in name is purely coincidental, and in as much as > this causes confusion, unfortunate. > >I hope this clarifies the situation. > >With Kind Regards, >Rob Koenen >_______________________________________________ >News mailing list >News@lists.m4if.org >http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/news ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kristine N. Kneib, Ph.D. - KNK Seminars & Strategies Making MPEG Work for You! 6333 La Jolla Blvd., Ste. 376 - La Jolla - CA 92037-6622 Tel: 858-459-8058 - Fax: 858-459-3654 www.knk-mpeg.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/news/attachments/20020110/4cedc22a/attachment.html From rkoenen intertrust.com Mon Jan 14 17:29:06 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] Second of Series of Webcasts coming up! Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D590B0B88@exchange.epr.com> All, the second of six announced webcasts on MPEG technologies "Become an MPEG-4 Expert in 6 hours" is due in some 13 hours from now. The topic of this one-hour show is MPEG-4 Visual, addressing all the tools in the MPEG-4 Visual Standard. The webcast is a cooperation between Streamingmedia, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum, M4IF. Please find information here http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html and here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/mpeg4.asp. Also, find listening details here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/view.asp?id=299 Kind Regards, Rob Koenen From rkoenen intertrust.com Mon Jan 21 22:20:55 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] 3rd Webcast - Audio - in a few hours! Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D591873DF@exchange.epr.com> All, the third of six webcasts on MPEG technologies "Become an MPEG-4 Expert in 6 hours" is due in some 11 hours from now. The topic of this one-hour show is MPEG-4 Audio, addressing all the tools in the MPEG-4 Audio Standard. You can listen on the Web, or call in with questions. Times: 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET, 9:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 01:00 China, 02:00 Tokyo, Seoul (sorry) 04:00 Sydney The webcast is a cooperation between Streamingmedia, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum, M4IF. Experts on the webcast are this time: * Bernhard Grill of the famous Fraunhofer Gesellschaft, who stood at the basis of many MPEG Audio Standards, including MP3, MPEG-2 AAC and MPEG-4 Audio * Schuyler Quackenbush of AT& Labs, Chairman of MPEG's Audio Group * Brane Zivkovic of Soundball, experts in Structured Audio Please find information here http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html and here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/view.asp?id=301&ref=m4if Generic info about the series is here: http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/series.asp?series=handson&ref=m4if The show will cover: * MPEG-4 AAC and coding of audio at low bitrates * MPEG-4 Speech coding * Text-to-speech interface * MPEG-4 Synthetic Audio, including Structured Audio and more! Kind Regards, Rob Koenen From rkoenen intertrust.com Mon Jan 21 22:54:38 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] Results Barcelona meeting Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D591873E2@exchange.epr.com> M4IF Watchers, THe 8th M4IF meeting was very productive, in spite of the attendance being somewhat down from usual. The main results are: * M4IF/MPEG-4 marketing communications plan done. This includes - MPEG-4 messaging - Marketing Action list - Membership Drive being planned - Basic agreement on logo - Will pursue M4IF presence at NAB - Will organize 3rd Workshop and Exhibition on MPEG-4, 25-27 June 2002 * next phase of interop kicked-off - over 20 companies participating - Will start addressing streaming MPEG-4 next. Will harmonize work with ISMA (Internet Streaming Media Alliance) * Self-certification approach chosen for products that want to carry the logo; Started working out the details and the exact meaning of the certification. * Next (9th) meeting; 2 full days either: Fairfax, VA, USA, 2/3 May, or San Jose, CA, USA, 24/25 June 10th meeting 2 days Sept/Oct in Seoul or Tokyo See www.m4if.org Best Regards, Rob Koenen President, M4IF From rkoenen intertrust.com Tue Jan 22 20:37:27 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Audio 2001 edition published Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187444@exchange.epr.com> People, This week, ISO published MPEG-4 Audio 2001 edition, or ISO/IEC 14496-3:2001. This edition integrates MPEG-4 Audio Version 1, Version 2 and a few corrigenda (editorial corrections). Developers can now work with one consistent spec instead of having to refer to multiple documents. See http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/CatalogueDetailPage.CatalogueDetail?CSNUMBER=36083& ICS1=35&ICS2=40&ICS3= (remove any line breaks before clicking on the link) Kind Regards, Rob Koenen From rkoenen intertrust.com Fri Jan 25 15:36:25 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:28 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] 3rd Workshop and Exhibition on MPEG-4 Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D5918753B@exchange.epr.com> The 3rd Workshop and Exhibition on MPEG-4 will be more interesting than ever. A 3 day event exclusively dedicated to MPEG-4 Technology, Services, Products and Applications!! Put the following dates in your Agenda: 25-27 June San Jose, CA USA While the details and the sessions are still being worked out, I can already reveal: * More hands-on tutorials and sessions than previous editions * More exhibits and exhibitors * Exhibits and Sessions co-located in the same building, so you can easily move from exhibition to sessions and back again * More attendants * More marketing of the entire event * More demonstrations on interoperable MPEG-4 products * ... but we will be able to lower the price! http://www.m4if.org/wemp2002/index.html is still under construction, but it is already possible to register exhibits and papers. Register your exhibition booths early, as you will get this first choice for a good spot. There will be sponsor options for M4IF members; details to be announced. Don't hesitate to call or mail me with questions! Best Regards, Rob -------------------------------------------- Rob Koenen President, M4IF tel +1 (408) 855 6891 gsm +1 (408) 823 7512 fax +1 (408) 855 0250 4750 Patrick Henry Drive Santa Clara, CA 95054 USA mailto:rob.koenen@m4if.org ____________________________________________ http://www.m4if.org has the latest on MPEG-4 From peterh videospheres.com Mon Jan 28 13:12:50 2002 From: peterh videospheres.com (Peter Haighton) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] M4IF lists are moderated Message-ID: Hello Everyone, There appears to be nasty email virus that has been released on the internet recently. In order to prevent this virus from hitting our subscribers, all news lists are now moderated until this current threat disappears. This may affect the time it takes for the message to be posted to everyone, but I think protecting our members and subscribers is of upmost importance. Peter -- Peter Haighton VideoSpheres Inc. 84 Hines Road Kanata, Ontario Canada, K2K 3G3 Tel: (613) 270-9646 x3022 Fax: (613) 271-9442 email: peterh@VideoSpheres.com See http://www.m4if.org for the latest on MPEG-4 From rkoenen intertrust.com Mon Jan 28 23:41:30 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] 4th Webcast - Conformance and Interoperability - in a few hours! Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D591875AD@exchange.epr.com> All, the fourth of six webcasts on MPEG-4 technologies "Become an MPEG-4 Expert in 6 hours" will be broadcast in a few hours. The topic of this one-hour show is Conformance and Interoperability, adressing Conformance Testing, Profiles, Levels, Interoperability Testing - how to do it, where to do it and where to get the tools. You can listen on the Web, or call in with questions. Times: 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET, 9:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 01:00 China, 02:00 Tokyo, Seoul (sorry) 04:00 Sydney The webcast is a cooperation between Streamingmedia, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum, M4IF. Experts on the webcast are this time: * Jean-Claude Dufourd of ENST in France, editor of the MPEG-4 Conformance spec * Fernando Pereira of IST in Portugal, expert on Profiles and Levels * Ralph Neff from PacketVideo in CA, USA, expert on interoperability testing in multiple forums * Rob Koenen, chair MPEG Requirements Group which oversees the definition of Profiles and Levels. Please find information here http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html and here http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/view.asp?id=302&ref=m4if Generic info about the series is here: http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/mpeg4.asp&ref=m4if The discussion will address: * What is interoperability in MPEG-4? * What are interoperability points? - Profiles: the tools - Levels: the complexity * What is being done in interop testing? - in M4IF and outside * What is Conformance? - what does MPEG do in terms of conformance - dowload the bitstreams! * Certification of Products in M4IF and more! Kind Regards, Rob Koenen From rkoenen intertrust.com Wed Jan 30 16:18:40 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] WEMP-4 Tutorials Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187647@exchange.epr.com> Dear people, We are preparing a set of tutorials for the 3rd Workshop and Exhibition on MPEG-4, 25-27 June in San Jose. See http://www.m4if.org/wemp2002/index.html We want to make sure that the tutorials match 'popular demand' - your demand, that is. Please let us know what you want to see covered at WEMP4. We currently have the following list, which is presented with the most recent developments first: * The work of the Joint Video Team on a new common ITU-T/MPEG-4 video coder (MPEG-4 part 10) * The work on the Animation Framework eXtension (AFX) * The eXtemsible MPEG-4 Textual Format (XMT) * MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile and Fine Grain Scalability (the latest additions to MPEG-4 Visual) * MPEG-4 Visual Studio Profile * Intellectual Property Management and Protection (IPMP, or, in other words, Digitla Rights Management in MPEG-4) - The hooks that are standardized - the extensions that are now underway * MPEG-4 Binary Format for Scenes (BIFS) and Authoring * Profiles and Levels; Interoperability. Last year we did 'Basic tutorials' on MPEG-4 Visual, Audio and Systems. --> Is there still a desire to have these in the program? --> What of the list above do you want to see most? --> What is not in the above list that needs to be covered as well?? All reactions very welcome, Rob Koenen, also on behalf of Fernando Pereira, tutorial chair. From rkoenen intertrust.com Wed Jan 30 16:48:33 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] Webcasts: Next one is on IPMP! Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187649@exchange.epr.com> All, the 5th of our 6 episode webcast show on MPEG-4 technologies "Become an MPEG-4 Expert in 6 hours" will be aired ("wired") coming Tuesday. ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! NOTE that the 5th and the 6th episodes have switched places compared to what was originally published: Tuesday 5 Februari: IPMP (Digital Rights Management) in MPEG-4 This will include the relation of IPMP with MPEG-2 and a bit on MPEG-21 Tuesday 12 Februari: MPEG-4 eXtensible Textual Format (XMT), Authoring including the File Format. ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! For both shows, you can listen on the Web or download later. World class experts on these topics will tell you all you ever wanted to know, and if they don't, you can call into the live show and ask them your questions. Experts and audience come from all over the globe. Airing times are: 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET, 9:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 01:00 China, 02:00 Tokyo, Seoul (sorry) 04:00 Sydney (sorry) The 4 webcasts already broadcast are still available for streaming and downloading (MP3): * MPEG-4 Systems * MPEG-4 Video * MPEG-4 Audio * Conformance and Interoperability in MPEG-4. See http://www.m4if.org/streaming/index.html or http://www.streamingmedia.com/talk/mpeg4.asp?id=299&ref=m4if for links to all of these. These webcasts are the result of a cooperation between Streamingmedia, Inc. and the MPEG-4 Industry Forum (M4IF). Kind Regards, Rob Koenen President, M4IF ps: If you have questions, suggestions, rants or compliments about the series, send them to show host Bill Bernat and to me before it's all over! From Borilin SPIRITCORP.com Thu Jan 31 13:24:45 2002 From: Borilin SPIRITCORP.com (Vyacheslav Borilin) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] WEMP-4 Tutorials Message-ID: <0E16E93B70678344A46AD71290DBE7680F7B6D@srv2000.spiritcorp.com> I think * The work on the Animation Framework eXtension (AFX) And * MPEG-4 Binary Format for Scenes (BIFS) and Authoring Are of most interest. SY, Vyacheslav Borilin Managing/Marketing director of SeeStorm Inc. You can connect me via SSM by UIN 342 or tel: +7-095-912-6823 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download SeeStorm Visual Instant Messenger for free now at ssm.seestorm.com! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Rob Koenen [mailto:rkoenen@intertrust.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2024 3:19 AM To: M4IF news (E-mail) Cc: Prof. Fernando Pereira (E-mail) Subject: [M4IF News] WEMP-4 Tutorials Dear people, We are preparing a set of tutorials for the 3rd Workshop and Exhibition on MPEG-4, 25-27 June in San Jose. See http://www.m4if.org/wemp2002/index.html We want to make sure that the tutorials match 'popular demand' - your demand, that is. Please let us know what you want to see covered at WEMP4. We currently have the following list, which is presented with the most recent developments first: * The work of the Joint Video Team on a new common ITU-T/MPEG-4 video coder (MPEG-4 part 10) * The work on the Animation Framework eXtension (AFX) * The eXtemsible MPEG-4 Textual Format (XMT) * MPEG-4 Advanced Simple Profile and Fine Grain Scalability (the latest additions to MPEG-4 Visual) * MPEG-4 Visual Studio Profile * Intellectual Property Management and Protection (IPMP, or, in other words, Digitla Rights Management in MPEG-4) - The hooks that are standardized - the extensions that are now underway * MPEG-4 Binary Format for Scenes (BIFS) and Authoring * Profiles and Levels; Interoperability. Last year we did 'Basic tutorials' on MPEG-4 Visual, Audio and Systems. --> Is there still a desire to have these in the program? --> What of the list above do you want to see most? --> What is not in the above list that needs to be covered as well?? All reactions very welcome, Rob Koenen, also on behalf of Fernando Pereira, tutorial chair. _______________________________________________ News mailing list News@lists.m4if.org http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/news From rkoenen intertrust.com Thu Jan 31 11:47:00 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187679@exchange.epr.com> Newsflash: See http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/220310215&ticker= Rob From peterh videospheres.com Thu Jan 31 14:54:12 2002 From: peterh videospheres.com (Peter Haighton) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] Terms of MPEG-4 Visual Patent Portfolio License Announced Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I would like to bring to everyones attention that MPEG-LA has today released information on terms of licensing for MPEG-4. This is very good news for the MPEG-4 world. The press release can be found at http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/220310215&ticker= Peter -- Peter Haighton VideoSpheres Inc. 84 Hines Road Kanata, Ontario Canada, K2K 3G3 Tel: (613) 270-9646 x3022 Fax: (613) 271-9442 email: peterh@VideoSpheres.com See http://www.m4if.org for the latest on MPEG-4 From asjabbi micron.com Thu Jan 31 12:57:55 2002 From: asjabbi micron.com (asjabbi) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] EE Times: Anger greets MPEG-4 licensing scheme Message-ID: http://www.eet.com/story/OEG20020131S0061 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/news/attachments/20020131/766fdfd3/attachment.html From kordale kasenna.com Thu Jan 31 12:42:56 2002 From: kordale kasenna.com (Ram Kordale) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced In-Reply-To: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D59187679@exchange.epr.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020131124222.02d3a008@mail.kasenna.wan> The statements are bit(??) confusing. For example, since the $.25 is for a decoder for "private use" only, is it true that - if a service provider were to provide a player download, then there is no cost? - $.25 is the cost per player? - there is no agreement yet for a player that will be able to watch content provided by a service provider? Ram At 11:47 AM 1/31/2002 -0800, Rob Koenen wrote: >Newsflash: > >See >http://www.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/220310215&ticker= > >Rob >_______________________________________________ >News mailing list >News@lists.m4if.org >http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/news From rkoenen intertrust.com Thu Jan 31 14:57:13 2002 From: rkoenen intertrust.com (Rob Koenen) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced Message-ID: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D5918768F@exchange.epr.com> > The statements are bit(??) confusing. For example, since the > $.25 is for a decoder for "private use" only, is it true that > - if a service provider were to provide a player download, > then there is no cost? > - $.25 is the cost per player? > - there is no agreement yet for a player that will be able to > watch content provided by a service provider? > I hope the licensors or their representatives can shed some light on these and other questions that might arise. The language in the release is open for more than one interpretation. Not having taken part in these talks, and having read them only today, I can only say: in general you would only charge once. So if you are charging for usage, then maybe you shouldn't charge for the decoder as well. The way I read it is that the 25 cents is per player copy (HW or SW). Rob ps: we are setting up a discussion list discuss@lists.m4if.org for discussing issues like this. Subscription details will be here: http://www.m4if.org/public/publiclistreg.html shortly. I will send another announcement on this list when the new list is up and running. The "discuss" list will be for non-technical discussions on MPEG-4. From ravi.reddy grassvalleygroup.com Thu Jan 31 15:15:25 2002 From: ravi.reddy grassvalleygroup.com (ravi.reddy@grassvalleygroup.com) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced Message-ID: <7F0BDA1BE023D5119C3F00805FEA29CCDB872D@S-BV-M01> In most cases the Transaction cost of collection is $0.25; It is more expensive to collect the $0.25 then to make the Players free. I really doubt if the collection infrastructre can be implemented to make any profit, it is just a pain may be it provides a few jobs and a nightmare on accounting etc. There should be a hefty charge only for encoding and no change for decoding, hey we should compete with the free Windows Media Player, how can you compete with free, please make the decoders free and be ubiquitous. Ravi. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Koenen [mailto:rkoenen@intertrust.com] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2024 2:57 PM To: 'Ram Kordale'; Rob Koenen; M4IF news (E-mail) Cc: Larry Horn (E-mail) Subject: RE: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced > The statements are bit(??) confusing. For example, since the > $.25 is for a decoder for "private use" only, is it true that > - if a service provider were to provide a player download, > then there is no cost? > - $.25 is the cost per player? > - there is no agreement yet for a player that will be able to > watch content provided by a service provider? > I hope the licensors or their representatives can shed some light on these and other questions that might arise. The language in the release is open for more than one interpretation. Not having taken part in these talks, and having read them only today, I can only say: in general you would only charge once. So if you are charging for usage, then maybe you shouldn't charge for the decoder as well. The way I read it is that the 25 cents is per player copy (HW or SW). Rob ps: we are setting up a discussion list discuss@lists.m4if.org for discussing issues like this. Subscription details will be here: http://www.m4if.org/public/publiclistreg.html shortly. I will send another announcement on this list when the new list is up and running. The "discuss" list will be for non-technical discussions on MPEG-4. _______________________________________________ News mailing list News@lists.m4if.org http://lists.m4if.org/mailman/listinfo/news From yuval envivio.com Thu Jan 31 16:10:40 2002 From: yuval envivio.com (Yuval Fisher) Date: Wed Jul 23 13:58:29 2003 Subject: [M4IF News] MPEG-4 Visual License scheme announced References: <3C124172E7FDD511B510000347426D5918768F@exchange.epr.com> Message-ID: <3C59DD00.C879EC93@envivio.com> My personal view is this: I think these terms are rather a bad idea, because the $0.25 will squelch free distribution of software players. I don't understand how anyone will know whether the decoder will be used for 'free' or paid videos. My first reaction is disappointment. At least there's a year of free downloads at the beginning, but that is probably not enough time to establish a sufficiently large market to warrent the license fees. Yuval