Fwd: Re: [M4IF Discuss] Questions about the hourly usage fee for MPEG4]

[Fevzi Karavelioglu]

I meant to send the reply to the list.
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Subject: Re: [M4IF Discuss] Questions about the hourly usage fee for MPEG4
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2024 12:11:53 -0800
From: Fevzi Karavelioglu <fevzi   tivo.com>
To: Ken Goldsholl <kgoldsholl   oxygnet.com>
Good question.  I asked a smiliar question from a DVR perfpective where
a content may be recorded but not viewed, or it can be viewed many times
and sometimes a back up copy may be made onto a conventional VCR.
If flat panel display is on but nobody is in the room who should be
charged for the use?
I am not sure about this trend will catch on to this extent, not without
some technological advancement that will accurately determine the real use.
Fevzi Karavelioglu.
Tivo Inc. Alviso CA
Ken Goldsholl wrote:
 >Under the proposed licensing scheme, there won't be any hourly usage fees
 >for decoding MPEG4 content stored on DVD.  So if an MPEG4 movie is first
 >downloaded to a storage device, and then viewed some time after the
 >download, just as a user would a DVD, would there be an hourly usage fee?
 >How would this be monitored and controlled?  Who would be responsible for
 >making sure the consumer paid the fee? Why would it be treated any
 >differently than a DVD?  If a data file is being transferred from one disk
 >drive to another, yet not viewed, why would any patents be infringed?  The
 >intellectual property is only being utilized when the file is decoded.
 >Transferring files from one server to another does not involve 
decoding, so
 >why would the transport of a file incur an hourly usage fee?
 >
 >So are the IP holders who are proposing an hourly scheme implying that the
 >MPEG4 technology is the only technology used in creating content,
 >transporting it efficiently to the viewer, and then displaying it, that is
 >worthy of an hourly usage fee?  Or are they expecting that other 
technology
 >asset owners will implement the same scheme, whereby you don't 
actually own
 >the right to use any technology-based products that you buy?  If this 
trend
 >catches on, will I have to pay for each minute my flat panel display 
is on?
 >what about Intel?  Will they want hourly fees for using the computer 
(maybe
 >they'll charge by the instructions, as it could be sitting idle alot)?
 >
 >Ken Goldsholl
 >
 >
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