[M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG- 4 Licensing ...

[Jeyendran Balakrishnan]

Rob,
	I agree with your comments about sweeping statememts. Moderation in
public statements
will perhaps achieve more than an extreme approach.
	My comment about hoping that the JVT codec is patent-free was
intended to be 
light-hearted - which explained the ;-)...
In practice, I have some doubts that any compression standard these days can
entirely be "patent-free."
IMHO, there may not be sufficient incentive for for-profit corporations to
contribute their 
IP for the public good otherwise. Having said this, I still hope that some
really useful version 
of the JVT codec is standardized to be preferably patent-free or at worst
comes with minimal patent 
baggage. 
One minimal requirement is "No usage fees!" 
I hope the convenors of MPEG-4 Part-10 are reading this list. :-)
	Regarding other suggestions from you that 
"I urge all those concerned to talk to those that can actually change the 
situation: the licensors, who came up with the licensing terms to begin
with. Talk to them, through MPEG LA. Do it now, while things are still under
definition.": 
This is really useful advice to those of the MPEG-4 community who are
feeling frustrated at the
current state of the MPEG-LA patent licensing position. I was basically
hoping that MPEG-LA
regularly reads this discussion list, and that they will clearly understand
the public reaction,
and easen their position accordingly. But I guess that may be a naive
belief! 
Can you let the list know how one may forward comments to MPEG-LA?
Regards:
Jeyendran
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Koenen [mailto:rkoenen   intertrust.com]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2024 8:00 PM
To: Yuval Fisher
Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org
Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about
MPEG- 4 Licensing ...
> >         As for me, I'm looking at MPEG-4 Part 10 and hoping 
> that it is
> > patent-free ;-)
> 
> 
> I wouldn't hold your breath. Many companies are nervous about 
> submarine
> patents. There's a strong anti-free-license movement in MPEG. 

Sweeping statements like these are very unhelpful.
It may indeed be unlikley that full JVT codec is going to be RF
(Royalty-Free).
There is, however,  a strong desire among many parties to try and 
establish a RF baseline. There is an ongoing effort to see how such 
an RF baseline could be established. It is area in which people like
to maneuver carefully, for obvious reasons. 
Rob
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