[M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG- 4 Licensing ...

[Rob Koenen]

After having been chair of MPEG's requirements group for
years I can assure you that the danger of defining Profiles too
early is far greater than defining them too late.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: David Strasser [mailto:dstrasse   ati.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2024 14:53
To: 'Rob Koenen'; 'Daniel B. Miller'
Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; Gary Sullivan (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about MPEG- 4
Licensing ...
I'm not sure how you can say it's a stable draft when JVT has not selected
Profiles or Levels yet.  
-----Original Message----- 
From: Rob Koenen [ mailto:rkoenen   intertrust.com
<mailto:rkoenen   intertrust.com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2024 3:56 PM 
To: 'Daniel B. Miller' 
Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; Gary Sullivan (E-mail) 
Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about 
MPEG- 4 Licensing ... 
Dan, 
There are two ways to get involved in the work of the JVT: 
* through MPEG 
        - in your case, through ANSI 
* through ITU-T 
        - I do not know how that would work 
The best way is to contact Gary Sullivan, who heads the JVT. 
He also knows about ITU-T procedures. 
JVT is meeting this week, so Gary will be extremely busy. 
FYI - The codec is progressing to Committee Draft (and I 
believe  an ITU equivalent thereof) this week; this is a 
very stable draft. 
Kind Regards, 
Rob 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Daniel B. Miller [ mailto:dan   on2.com <mailto:dan   on2.com> ] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2024 12:48 
> To: Rob Koenen 
> Cc: discuss   lists.m4if.org; discuss-admin   lists.m4if.org 
> Subject: RE: [M4IF Discuss] RE: [M4IF News] To those concerned about 
> MPEG- 4 Licensing ... 
> 
> 
> Rob -- 
> 
> can you provide a pointer to information about how to get 
> involved in the 
> JVT (Mpeg4/p10) work?  I assume it is similar to MPEG committee 
> membership, ie ANSI membership &/or corporate sponsor? 
> 
>  ___  Dan Miller 
> (++,) CTO and founder, On2 Technologies 
> 
> On Fri, 3 May 2002, Rob Koenen wrote: 
> 
> > > >         As for me, I'm looking at MPEG-4 Part 10 and hoping 
> > > that it is 
> > > > patent-free ;-) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't hold your breath. Many companies are nervous about 
> > > submarine 
> > > patents. There's a strong anti-free-license movement in MPEG. 
> > 
> > Sweeping statements like these are very unhelpful. 
> > 
> > It may indeed be unlikley that full JVT codec is going to be RF 
> > (Royalty-Free). 
> > There is, however,  a strong desire among many parties to try and 
> > establish a RF baseline. There is an ongoing effort to see how such 
> > an RF baseline could be established. It is area in which people like 
> > to maneuver carefully, for obvious reasons. 
> > 
> > Rob 
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